Noted Humorist Garrison Keillor Encounters the Truth of Inadequate Funding for Clinical Laboratory Testing Services
It is widely recognized by pathologists and clinical laboratory managers in the United States and abroad that medical laboratory testing is a “high touch” clinical service. Each day, lots of patients interact with laboratory professionals to provide specimens. Physicians know that their own successful medical practice is dependent on a smooth-functioning and high-quality pathology testing service that delivers accurate, reliable lab test results.
Another truth in today’s healthcare system is selective underfunding of certain clinical laboratory testing services in the United States. In this country, pathologists and clinical lab managers are all too familiar with this situation. What might be at the top of the list of inadequately-reimbursed laboratory procedures is venipuncture. It has been years since Medicare, Medicaid, and private payers have reimbursed the venipuncture procedure at a level that is close to the cost of providing that service to patients.
The next truth in laboratory testing is that clinical laboratories have a large number of “frequent customers.” These are patients who regularly undergo tests. Thus, they often visit patient service centers to provide blood and other specimens. It is this group of patients who can be most critical of laboratories that fail to meet their expectations. As pathologists and clinical lab managers know from long experience, if too many patients have a bad experience with the lab’s phlebotomist and complain to their doctor, that doctor is often motivated to switch his/her business to another laboratory.
Earlier this week, a disgruntled patient spoke out about his negative experiences with his laboratory and several regular Dark Daily readers e-mailed us with their comments. On December 3, noted humorist and story teller Garrison Keillor, of Prairie Home Companion fame, in his syndicated newspaper column, wrote about his recent experiences with phlebotomists at Quest Diagnostics Incorporated (NYSE:DGX) as part of a commentary on the faults of private healthcare in this nation:
- My own experience is that when I go to get a new driver’s license in St. Paul, or deal with the city inspector when a sewage line breaks, or walk into a post office to mail letters, or talk to the police when our house alarm goes off, I find public employees to be cheerful and competent and highly professional, and when I go for blood draws at Quest Diagnostics, a national for-profit chain of medical labs, I find myself in tiny, dingy offices run by low-wage immigrant health workers who speak incomprehensible English and are rude to customers and take forever to do a routine procedure. An hour in a Quest office will ruin your whole day.
- If the government took over this miserable operation, paid the people decently and trained them to smile and speak softly, civilization would be advanced. If we simply extended Medicare to anyone who wished to sign up for it, the vast Kafkaesque bureaucracy of for-profit insurance would come crashing down, and the public would be healthier.
Keillor has correctly identified one ongoing issue that has plagued the clinical laboratory profession for decades. Because the meager reimbursement for phlebotomy procedures offered by Medicare, Medicaid, and private payers fails to cover the actual cost of performing a blood collection, the majority of laboratories in the United States can only afford to pay a minimal wage to phlebotomists and must tightly control the costs of maintaining a patient service center where patient specimens can be collected.
In this case, Keillor has made a wrong assumption about why the patient service center experience he encounters fails to meet his expectations. It is attributable to a systemic problem in how this country funds healthcare services. Keillor is making an inaccurate conclusion to assume that, the primary reason he is in a “tiny, dingy office run by low-wage immigrant health workers who speak incomprehensible English and are rude to customers and take forever to do a routine procedure” is because that patient service center is owned and operated by a private laboratory company.
Most pathologists and clinical laboratory managers will understand these aspects of Keillor’s commentary. However, Keillor’s description of his experience does offer some lessons for the laboratory testing profession. It was just this September when Keillor was admitted to a Minnesota hospital operated by the Mayo Clinic for treatment of a minor stroke. In earlier years, he has had heart valve surgery at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.
The point here is that Keillor has experience at one of the world’s pre-eminent health systems. It has a reputation for well-designed facilities and first-class patient service. On the other hand, the reality of the laboratory testing marketplace is that many patient service centers are located in medical office buildings and other sites that can frequently show their age or economic obsolescence. Yet these same access points may represent a vital link to patients in the surrounding community.
Keillor’s comments are a reminder that it is important for medical laboratories to devote adequate extra resources to the “public face” of their laboratory, including all the places where patients, physicians, and medical staff interact with the laboratory’s employees. The best examples of this are phlebotomists who collect blood; couriers who visit the doctors’ office to pick up specimens; client service reps who handle phone calls from patients and physicians; along with the lab billing/collections staff, who regularly communicate with patients and physicians to ensure that claims are properly completed and accurately reimbursed. And don’t forget! Pathologists and Ph.D.s also frequently communicate with patients.
The nation’s best clinical laboratories, regardless of whether they are for-profit, not-for-profit, or government laboratories, are proud of the services they render daily to million of patients. Only if the health programs in the United States—including both public and private payers—provide adequate reimbursement can clinical laboratories consistently meet and exceed all the needs and expectations of patients and referring physicians.
PS: See below to learn how the CEO of Quest Diagnostics Incorporated responded to Keillor’s published commentary.
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POSTSCRIPT: In wide circulation is the message that Chairman and CEO Surya N. Mohapatra, Ph.D., wrote to the employees of Quest Diagnostics Incorporated on December 3, the day that Garrison Keillor’s column appeared in print. In part, his response included these comments:
Yesterday, syndicated columnist Garrison Keillor published a newspaper article in which he referenced his negative experiences at our Patient Service Centers. To see the article, visit (requires Internet access) – (Source: New York Times): http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/opinion/03iht-edkeilor.html. Mr. Keillor has every right to express his opinions, including those that are unfavorable to our company. However, I strongly object to his characterization of our employees as “low-wage immigrant health workers who speak incomprehensible English and are rude to customers.” Not only are his comments insensitive and inappropriate, but also they are an inaccurate depiction of our many customer facing employees around the country.
Unlike the company Mr. Keillor describes, Quest Diagnostics is an ethical and highly successful business that has been recognized as a great place to work around the U.S. and in England. We are one of Fortune Magazine’s World’s Most Admired Companies.
I am proud of Quest Diagnostics employees and your ongoing dedication and commitment to putting patients first. Though we always try our best, there are times when we may not meet everyone’s high expectations. In these instances, I have always said we should consider every complaint as a gift.
Our success depends on continuing to provide a consistently superior experience for patients and customers – every time. I’m counting on each of you.
To NM, thank you for that point on duty to report. AK was the problem, and don’t know if I can judge him, but it does pretty much destroy his argument.
I was a long time Garrison K fan for over 30 years, and I don’t think the issue is the quality of service that he received at Quest, I can understand people commenting on the service they get at businesses, and there is nothing wrong with that. The reason I was bothered by the article is that it was so bigotted, he made all types of assumptions, used false logic and was also very demeaning to the low wage immigrant workers. I am best friends with many of those low wage immigrant workers…which in fact they are well paid immigrant CITIZENS. I have celebrated with my friends after they have become citizens, worked with them all through the night, being prideful that we were providing a valued service to our patients. Unfortunately Mr. Keiller saw what he wanted to see, hastily judged and seem to write this article without the normal thoughtful skill he usually showed..I am also greatly saddened I no longer want to listen to his show, I used to find the greatest joy with the News from Lake Wobegon. PS, my dad and his brothers and sister were immigrant CITIZENS, so maybe I am biased
I have been a Quest Diagnostics employee for 13 years, and every day that I come to work, I am getting closer to a world that has cures for cancer, diabetes, alzheimer’s and every other devastating disease – can Garrison Keillor say the same?
To AK, I would add- did you not take the required annual training about compliance and duty to report? If you signed that statement, and then did not use any of the 5 available means to report a violation in CLIA-88, including anonymous phone tips on the CHEQline, then you are culpable and could have been held accountable. We take our responsibilities to our patients very seriously, and I was highly offended by Keillor’s remarks, slamming the entire 400,000 global employees of our company because he had a bad day at a draw station? He should try actually doing the work for a living before he insults so many people so broadly. And I personally don’t mind if the decor is dingy if that means that the company did not have to lay off it’s workers during an economy where record numbers of patients were in collections because they could not pay their lab bill due to being laid off.
I worked for Quest Diagnostics for just under nine years. Mr. Kellier is right about the wages. Quest pays below market at their Portland lab than competing labs in the Portland/Vancouver area. I left there in 2007 and immediately started working for $3/hour more than I was making after working at Quest for over eight years.
Another nice little factoid about the Portland lab: From 1999 to 2002 had the Pathology TRANSCRIPTIONIST grossing in their biopsy specimens. They let that go on until corporate “caught” them in 2002 – they claimed to be running under CLIA-88 regulations, yet had a non-degreed person on the bench, grossing patient’s biopsies.
If you all have a choice, PLEASE use another lab service. Until they get caught, you never know WHO is handling your blood, tissue, or other specimens.
I read, with interest, your commentary on the Garrison Keillor column.
While I concur that aspects of lab medicine are “underfunded”, I think a major issue is the absence of consumers from the decision making process. I had a similar unpleasant phlebotomy experience at Labcorp. If that had been Burger King, I would have gone to McDonalds, if Chevy, then Ford, etc. However, my insurance company (which I don’t choose) chooses the lab company. The industry doesn’t have the market discipline that comes from consumers spending their own money (or even a voucher). In reality, there often isn’t that much value in upgrading waiting areas, or improving customer service in the collection area, since customers don’t have anywhere else to go. We don’t really discuss whether McDonalds is underfunded or overfunded.
Millions of people can decide whether a big Mac is better than a Whopper. If they had the choice, they probably would be able to choose between Labcorp and Quest too.
I am somewhat heartened by the recent flu vaccine season, where many drugstores provided flu shots for modest prices, and cash. In that case Walgreens has to provide service , or people will go to CVS.
Robert Boorstein, MD, PhD
Associate Professor of Pathology
Keillor accurately describes my last experience at the Department of Motor Vehicles.
His predilection for nanny government is delusional. Hopefully most of American Democrats will get over it after their first taste of ObamaCare.
I don’t think that paying more for venipuncture will make a difference on the service issue. The commercial labs will let that increase just flow to their bottom line. The best phlebotomists in our region work for the hospital laboratories. The ones who are not competent and/or do not have good people skills lose their jobs at the hospitals and find employment at our local commercial lab draw stations.
I think the Quest spokesperson needs to do some real time serious checking. I too have been unhappy with Quest’s phlebotomy. I need frequent lab tests, and my experiences there have been that while the facility appears clean and well maintained, and the employees are not foreign (should not be an issue), they are universally glum, pre-occupied, non-welcoming, barely responding to my (and other clients) cheerful greetings. The wait is usually an hour, even though there are only 8 – 10 people waiting, and it apperas there are at least 2-4 phlebotomists. I rarely see the same personnel there twice, and although I have decent veins, (used to let lab students practice on me and they did fine)the Quest people often have to stick me 2-3 times.
They get increasingly unhappy when I tell them I am allergic to latex, and if they miss, and I request that a different employee try, they get really unhappy – and I often sit another 10-20 minutes until someone else appears. Therefore, I have finally found a small local lab that is happy to see me, the wait time is rarely over 5-10 minutes, and they manage to get what they need the first time.